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02/24/21 12:45 PM #4430    

 

Jerald DeGraw

Hi Good Folks, Clarabelle here. We are all just Humans (duh...) and just a bunch of Old Dorks, really...it is easy to get offended and hurt, but I REALLY don't believe that any of Us actually want to hurt each other (well, yeah, sometimes, but only if We really get angry), but I know that if ANY of Us saw ANY of Us in a dangerous, or whatever, situation, We WOULD go to their rescue, with NO thought of Politics, religion, China or whatever. I enjoy reading EVERYONE's post...I usually learn SOMETHING from everyone, and I ACTUALLY would rather read something I don't agree with,, or even be severely critisized than not hearing from Them at all...keeping up the associations, especially for anyone who is Depressed, Lonely, Sad, Scared, Mis-understood...WHATEVER, has Good Value in and of Itself and I wish More and More and MORE Cubbies would, or Could join in. To prove that I'm the biggest Dork of all (as if there were any doubt), here is My latest Diesel Dorkmobile :-)

PS - I could EASILY list, one by one, something I have learned from EACH of Your Posts, but since Richard's is the last one I read, I MUST say that EVERYTHING He submitted in it is True and Accurate (again, Some are welcome to disagree, of Course) :-)

 


02/24/21 01:06 PM #4431    

 

Colleen Strand (Hansen)

Dear Jer Bear!! You are the best kind of dork and I enjoy reading all your  posts! Everyone's opinion is of value and I enjoy reading them all....don't stop!


02/24/21 05:39 PM #4432    

 

Gerd Eysser

Ken, my problem with companies supporting the CCP is that they are using our financial help to build their geopolitical empire.  Russia isn't even close..........at all.

But that will never change as long as our bureaucrats defend China.  For example, during the recent town hall, without a teleprompter, the president excused China's concentration camp confinement and torture of Uyghurs largely as a matter of having 'different norms'.  WTH is he talking about?  I think everyone outside of totalitarian countries would consider it genocide.  

Nike, Apple and the NBA are enabling their behavior while they stash billions in the bank and kids kill kids over athletic shoes and by their silence condone their behavior for the 'buck'.  The reason most people haven't heard of the Hyghurs is because the MSM doesn't want to participate in the reporting of the CCP behavior for fear of making the Chinese angry (remember the GM of the Houston Rockets and the NBA).   

Whew.......that felt good to get off my chest.  :)


02/24/21 06:20 PM #4433    

 

Jerald DeGraw

Thank You, DEARLY, Colleen! winkI can see I should have asked You on a date, in those good old days, but I never asked ANYONE out...I was/am like Marty...afraid I would be turned down :-( (don't let Steve see this:-)


02/25/21 09:37 AM #4434    

 

Paul Michelsen

There must be a reason why there is a memo for our page... 

So, I am  taking R.B.Smith. addvice. if you don't like reading it. 

Don't read it.

Cheers

 




02/25/21 11:03 AM #4435    

 

Jim Priskos

Dear cubs, I made a statement to a couple of contributors regarding labelling. I think sharing our opinions is important, more now than ever, since there is an abundance of disrespect for people with ideas that may be unpopular to others. We are all Americans with goals and desires and thankfully, opinions. The reason for my previous comment was that we should respect for each others with out assigning names. Each person that takes the time to be on the site deserves that. I really don't care if political statements are made or not. We still have the ability to just not read what we don't want to. Moving forward, let's just hope and pray( for those of tus that do,) that we can actually have the 50+ reunion this coming summer.


02/25/21 03:28 PM #4436    

 

Ken Hollen

Thanks, Jim.  You are right.  My sincere apologies.  I do have a greater respect for the truth.  It has become a habit, in today's world, to repeat anything and everything some one hears as if it is the Truth.  That isn't "opinion", it is nonsense.  Without rebuttal, these unsubstantiated concoctions become accepted as truth.  Old wive's tales never die, no matter how often you prove them wrong. Yes, we can turn a blind eye to this nonsense, but if we know better, doesn't that make us accomplices to the lie?  I miss the good old days when there was a degree of "political correctness" so those with the nonsense would keep it to themselves.  Being condescending is a bad habit I have.  It is my only way to counter the nonsense.  In the future, I will keep it to myself.


02/25/21 07:51 PM #4437    

 

Jerald DeGraw

GOOD Posts...heartwarming :-)


02/25/21 08:15 PM #4438    

 

Jerald DeGraw

Colleen, I can see I should have asked You on a date, in those good old days, but I never asked ANYONE out...I was/am like Marty...afraid I would be turned down (Instant Rejection) :-( (don't let Steve see this:-) I'm in enough trouble if You, or anyone else has read all of My posts...SO...I may as well cross the line, since You are so kind smiley

            -- McFly


02/26/21 03:09 AM #4439    

 

Richard Smith

I think I'm liking all of us a lot more than I did before and I've always been fond of my South High brave, independent, and trail blazing men and women. As I stated in my Classmate Profile, You guys have always meant the world to me. Have a great spring.


02/26/21 11:35 AM #4440    

 

Jerald DeGraw

BRAVO! HEAR, HEAR!!!:-)

     ---Still Marty McBozo...er, I mean Clarabelle (Honk Honk)


02/26/21 01:16 PM #4441    

 

Allen Gehrke

This may only be meaningful to a group of guys that grew up around municipal park.  David Disorbio passed away.   I do not have any information other than he has passed.   For those of you that knew Dave I thought you would like to know if did not know.  I have lots of memories of Dave his help with baseball and the jokes and peaks he would pull like turning on the sprinklers while we were sleeping out at muni.   He was a good man.  


02/26/21 03:00 PM #4442    

 

Colleen Strand (Hansen)

Awww...shucks Jerry, you are making me blush! I would have loved to go out with you(don't tell the wife) I love people who make me laugh and can always see the lighter side of life, especially now;)  Take care my cubby friend!

 

 


02/26/21 03:04 PM #4443    

 

Dale Charlie Salazar

Thanks for the update Allen.  I knew a couple of the Disorbios and not sure it's the same family but one of the fellows coached at the U for a time.  His older brother spent some time at Judge Memorial in a similar capacity and I worked with one of the wives at KSL.

Speaking of KSL I would like to segway after what Ken said.  We were trained to listen to the truth and hold the speaker's hand to the fire.  I generally don't have a problem with the truth but I do struggle with unfounded opinion.  Seems we've had a good bit of opinion here and some that was totally unfounded.  Yes Jim, now that I know what I can say I will offer my facts on an issue if it is warranted.

As an aside I would like to take a moment to focus on the Salt Lake City School Board.  For the first time in history we have a minority majority on the board.  It seems appropriate as the district is now minority majority meaning there are more minority students in the district that Anglo.  The disparity remains in that more of the students live on the west side but the east side gets half for the funding for fewer students.

Meantime the Board has offered the Superintendent job to an African American, a first in Salt Lake.

I want to applaud my son Nate for keeping a cool head as Vice President of the board through all the recent upheaval.  You may have seen him on TV.

 


02/27/21 12:42 AM #4444    

 

Richard Smith

I'm not sure if a couple of the recent comments about nonsense was directed at my comments about China and their past and current genocides but incase they were, I just wanted to post a current CNN, which I'm surprised would post any truth, report. I'm not sure I'm posting the image correctly, but at least here is the headline. Pretty sad that we can't stop this kind of stuff today. Maybe tomorrow?

Dutch parliament becomes second in a week to accuse China of genocide in Xinjiang

Beijing faces new abuse claims from Xinjiang

 


02/27/21 10:44 AM #4445    

 

Gerd Eysser

Richard, I wonder when the US will label the atrocities as genocide.  It's pretty obvious if you read any of the reporting coming out of China.  But then again we don't want to alienate China.  Bad for business (NBA, Wall Street, politics, etc).

Here's onetrain of th ought:  "President Biden is dismissing the genocide against the Uighur population in China, dubbing the mass internment a “different norm” — despite the State Department this month responding to attrocities in the camps, following reports of systemic rape and torture.

Is this one of those ocassions of 'uninformed opinion'?  But facts are stubborn.


02/27/21 11:53 AM #4446    

 

Allen Gehrke

Dale. It is the same.  He was the same age as my brother and they played at the U together and was always active with baseball and coaching.   He worked as a grounds keeper while in school.   I knew him well while I was going up 


02/27/21 05:20 PM #4447    

 

Richard Smith

Gerd, I saw this website in an ad while watching a YouTube video. Pretty profound.

https://chinaownsus.com/

02/28/21 01:17 PM #4448    

 

Charlotte Warr (Andersen)


02/28/21 04:47 PM #4449    

 

Jerald DeGraw

Just a dumb ol' Country Boy, but I NEVER thought I would see the day When China would be Our WORST Enemy, ahead of Russia, The Middle East (9-11,JIHAD), Germany & Japan (pEARL hARBOR ETC,long ago), England (also long ago) and the list goes on...However, as hard-to-believe, as our collective minds can imagine, The ENEMY Within may be as bad, but actually MUCH worse than the Country that gifted Us COVID-19. Sorry (not) but true...Please Let's not argue about this, as We are ALL America, and NO MATTER who Our enemies are, Let's concentrate on being THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!


 


03/01/21 04:44 AM #4450    

 

Richard Smith

It's hard to understand how so many, or is it really that many, that plea a support of the China CCP. The Internet is full of stories of families telling how their family members were actually put in body bags, zipped closed, and hauled away while they were still alive. Others report that the body bags actually were just thrown into incinerators. The CCP report that there were very few Covid 19 deaths but the cell phone providers report that many many thousands of cell phones are no longer in service. The doctor that first reported the Covid in China is still missing and Chinese citizens just celebrated the year anniversary of his disappearance.

Jerry, you got to quit degrading yourself with these negative descriptions and comments. It's voices that call foul throughout human history that eventually help to bring about change. We are all connected at a spiritual level so any truth spoken or not still has an impact on the human evolution as a whole. We are entering into a higher level, the beginning of the 4th density and there is going to be a significant separation of those in negativity and those in positivity. The world is going to be split like the atom is or as our cells did when we began to develop as embryos and those that stay in negativity or are still hung up on the past will stay on the old earth and have to go through another cycle of about 80,000 years from minerals, rocks and such to plants, trees, animals and then into a human body again. Those who are aware of this split will simply go with the new earth and onto another level of experience.

Everything I've summarized above can be easy proven with a little effort and research, unless it's just too much work and easier to judge and dismiss it. I'm hopeful that the sages and especially the Hopi indians and others are correct because I'm done with 3d, I hope.

RBS


03/01/21 10:57 AM #4451    

 

Colleen Strand (Hansen)

Love the pictures of you and the farm Jerry! Keep 'me coming;D


03/01/21 03:54 PM #4452    

 

Dale Charlie Salazar

Allen Gehrke, I did know the Disorbio brothers to be some of the friendliest guys I'd ever met, although I met them some years apart.  I met Dave in the 70s.  I don't remember if he was coaching there yet or an alumnus supporting the team.  I was following Randy Gomez, the QB and Pitcher for the utes in the mid-70s.

I met his older brother years later when my daughter was in high school but I don't remember what he was coaching.  I think he was the men's volleyball coach and helped out with football.

Both of these guys loved to laugh and seemed to wear a constant smile.

Thanks for the heads up.


03/01/21 10:19 PM #4453    

 

Jerald DeGraw

Colleen, You are very kind:-) Richard, You are very correct - I see why some of Our good-thinking Cubbies are a bit reluctant to believe just how Dangerous a threat China is...after all, even on 'Mash' the saying 'Better dead than Red' was used, and SO many more, but We weren't really affected, as a Country, even tho' EXTREME atrocities were being committed for SO long. Nowadays, however, We are in Their 'Bullseye' for Many reasons. I really am not guiltless, I'm ashamed to admit, as I have initiated hundreds of orders to China, I suppose hoping to help some of the poor merchants, but not wanting to support the ABSOLUTE Tyrannical,  EVIL Communist Government - I know, I'm probably a GREAT Fool for believing that, just because I want a good deal :-( 

  Now, I will credit Ken for pegging Me as He did...Several Years ago, I turned into a complete A-- H---, buying up as many properties as I could aquire, MANY from My Very Good Friend and Fellow Cub, Lon Schow, along with an Auto Dealership and other businesses. Yes, I REALLY got too big for My britches, especially having grown up I very humble circumstances ( where Cummins Diesel now stands on Third West and 1038 So ). This pic, sadly, depicts My awful attitude...just before I lost a FORTUNE, putting Me in My place where I'm trying to stay...So...sorry...Ken and Others are MORE than welcome to help Me in that matter, and I Truly appreciate that:-)

 PS - Just for fun, does ANYONE still remember the 'Red Front' store on State and 17th? Do You think that name had any particular meaning? ( I read a Deseret News article, once, which addressed that very question:-)


03/01/21 10:41 PM #4454    

 

Jerald DeGraw

Colleen, You are very kind:-) Richard, You are very correct - I see why some of Our good-thinking Cubbies are a bit reluctant to believe just how Dangerous a threat China is...after all, even on 'Mash' the saying 'Better dead than Red' was used, and SO many more, but We weren't really affected, as a Country, even tho' EXTREME atrocities were being committed for SO long. Nowadays, however, We are in Their 'Bullseye' for Many reasons. I really am not guiltless, I'm ashamed to admit, as I have initiated hundreds of orders to China, I suppose hoping to help some of the poor merchants, but not wanting to support the ABSOLUTE Tyrannical,  EVIL Communist Government - I know, I'm probably a GREAT Fool for believing that, just because I want a good deal :-(  PLEASE SEE TEXT BELOW 

  Now, I will credit Ken for pegging Me as He did...Several Years ago, I turned into a complete A-- H---, buying up as many properties as I could aquire, MANY from My Very Good Friend and Fellow Cub, Lon Schow, along with an Auto Dealership and other businesses. Yes, I REALLY got too big for My britches, especially having grown up in very humble circumstances ( where Cummins Diesel now stands on Third West and 1038 So ). This pic, sadly, depicts My awful attitude...just before I lost a FORTUNE, putting Me in My place where I'm trying to stay...but having a hard time NOT 'Tooting My Own Horn'. So...YES, Ken and Others are MORE than welcome to help Me in that matter, and I Truly appreciate that:-) Yes, I have a few Momentos and souvenirs from days gone by, but I don't mind telling Anyone that I LOVE getting by on the GRAND sum of $1048.00/Mo from SS and I LOVE shopping at Dollar Tree and Harbor Freight! :-)


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